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TOPIC: Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review

Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 3 weeks ago #5969

The Sig Sauer 1911 Carry Scorpion

Finally.

After much debate with several people that really know pistols (and dozens that didn't know squat), I picked out the Sig 1911 carry scorpion.

My goal was to get a handgun that shot a .45 round, was reliable, was accurate, and would make a good nightstand gun and a good IDPA gun, and was in stock locally.

That last part is a big deal. With Bass Pro ten minutes from my house, I've been very used to being able to fondle a hundred handguns without a problem every time I was shopping for one. Nowadays, Bass Pro has less than 20 handguns usually, and you have to take a number and wait for the staff to get to you.

My choices were down to the Sig 220 and this, and I chose this (despite the color) because of the fact that it was such a departure from what I've always owned (Glock's, M&P's, few revolvers, one H&K). This Cerakote makes me nervous. Should I really consider hanging a light/laser on this?? It's beautiful and unblemished! Despite my "guns are black" mindset, it's growing on me. Kinda.


Paid the 1090 dollars (the cost of TWO of my normal purchases) and walked out on cloud 9!! Straight home for a little cleaning, a little lube, and a once-over so I could light it up!!

First impressions were all summed up in one word. TIGHT! Beaver tail safety is different-feeling, but I've never had a 1911, so I'm sure it'll grow on me. The front strap under the trigger feels good, if not a bit sharp and toothy, in my right hand. I'm still not sure where to put my left hand exactly..

Trigger has just a hint of play in it, but its by far the lightest trigger I've ever owned or even played with. Cocked and locked makes me nervous, but with no de-cocker and the idea of thumbing the hammer down on a live round sounding only slightly more appealing than getting punched by Mike Tyson (the original one, not this nicer, smarter, more self-introspective one. Although he seems like he hits pretty hard, too). Could i try carrying Israeli?? No way. Not while I'm stuck living in the real world.

On to disassembly.

This 1911 is so different from all the normal black guns I've been used to. Disassembly was fairly straightforward after watching a YouTube video, and cleaning was simple, and I made sure to use LESS-LUBE-THAN-I-THINK-I-NEED. I tend to overlube. Reassembly?

-pause-

It should NEVER take 45 minutes to put a gun back together. I avoided the idiot scratch, but only by chance. Jeez oh Pete's what did I get myself into??!!

-unpause-

After watching several YouTube vids I discovered the info I needed (or it finally sank in) , I got her back together, and we were on our way to the range.

By the way, I ordered the slide guard from HIGH NOON holsters. Doesn't have a thumb strap that would make cocked and locked feel a bit more safe, but it is a Beautiful holster. Interestingly, I think the thumb safety impression inside the holster might be out of place... This holster will take a long time to grow on me, and until I started shopping, I had no idea how hard finding a holster for a Sig 1911 (with rail) would be. Anyways, since I started buying .45 rounds long before I bought the gun, lets shoot, eh? 200 rounds should warm it up!!
Pow! Pow! .........

3rd round.. And the world stopped turning.

Of the 10 handguns I've owned, I've only had one fail to feed, and it only did it once. On every magazine, this Sig would fail to feed at least one round, and when that round was recycled into the next magazine, it would fail to feed the same round again because of the gouge in the casing left from the first FTF.

After a 120 rounds, a thorough cleaning, reassembly (only took 15 minutes to re-assemble), and then another range trip a different day (80 rounds) with the same problem (albeit slightly less frequently), it was time for a phone call to Sig.

I took some pictures of the FTF, the feed ramp, the barrel, and my 3 yr old and my 4 yr old, so that I could "make my case" to Sig.

No need.

A number, an email, and all I had to do was go find a box.

Less than 3 weeks later, gun makes it back, and 200 rounds with just 2 ftf's.

I've gotten advice since (send it back again, sell it to some schlep who you don't know, and my favorite "take a hone and start grinding the feed ramp a little at a time...") but I'm sticking with my gut, and shooting a hundred more rounds before I do part 2 of this review.

Will be shooting it IDPA, so it'll be a little bit more real world-ish.

The holster thing is on the back burner... I can't bring myself to carry it until it shows a bit more reliability. And by a bit more, I mean a lot!!
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5975

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I am going through the same thing. I may trade it in for another weapon.


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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5977

I have put a few hundred rounds through my 1911 scorpion carry and have one ftf and it was ammunition related. I find it kind of strange that the newer ones seem to have issues.

I'm curious what do you use to clean it and do you lubricate?
And without sound derogatory you said you were new to 1911's are you maybe limp wristing? I've seen it happen with .22s so its possible with anything.

You said you were unsure how to hold it with your Left hand. This is similar to how I hold mine.

Well written review with some good points... I really wish we could get to the bottom of the issue but... life you know.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5978

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Thanks for taking the time to write this, Stuckless.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5990

Well, I shot the local IDPA yesterday.

First course of fire was 2 metal poppers, the Texas star, and 2 more metal poppers.

I had 5 FTF's on that course alone.

I spent the rest of the shoot getting feedback about the issue(s).

It's the magazine! (I'm using 4. 2 sig, 2 Wilson combat that I bought new.)

It's the ammo! (This time around, just WWB and lawman.)

I shot some indoor footage and can see that I am not limp wristing.

It's the gun. She's going back. Again.
Last Edit: 11 months 2 weeks ago by Stuckless.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5991

By the way, final count was 14 ftf's with less than 100 rounds shot.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5992

That's way too high a percentage for me. I'd try different ammo and magazines to see if that helps. If not, I'd call SIG again.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5993

The scorpions ship with Wilson combat mags... so... technically its 4 wilson combat mags.
Sig Scorpion Carry 1911 .45 ACP
Sig P938 BRG Two Tone 9mm
Springfield Armory Milspec 1911 .45 ACP
FNH PS-90 Tri-Rail 5.7 x 28mm (Entertaining Offers)
Tula Arsenal SKS 7.62x39mm
Serbu Super Shorty (Rem 870) 12ga (For Sale)
Glock 19 gen 3 (For Sale)
Sig M11-A1
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5994

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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5995

Maybe these pics will help get us some answers.

I want to thank everyone for their advice. I'm not brand new to handguns/shooting, but I know that I'm thankful that you all care enough to even opine.

I'm giving it til Monday. Between now and then I'll give it one more clean/shoot/clean cycle. If it ftf's it's going back. Unless someone comes up with something I can do from home.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5996

death2twinkys wrote:
I have put a few hundred rounds through my 1911 scorpion carry and have one ftf and it was ammunition related. I find it kind of strange that the newer ones seem to have issues.

I'm curious what do you use to clean

Clp to clean and rem oil to lube.

I read about these torture tests of freezing and sand and heat and I wonder if I should even have to lube it???

I've ran it really wet and pretty dry... No difference. Clean and dirty... No difference.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #5998

Well the extractor is clearly functioning correctly...
Can I get a picture of the feed ramp with the slide locked back and you putting pressure pushing the barrel back please? It look like you have more of a gap than I do.

Pushed back

pulled forward
Sig Scorpion Carry 1911 .45 ACP
Sig P938 BRG Two Tone 9mm
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FNH PS-90 Tri-Rail 5.7 x 28mm (Entertaining Offers)
Tula Arsenal SKS 7.62x39mm
Serbu Super Shorty (Rem 870) 12ga (For Sale)
Glock 19 gen 3 (For Sale)
Sig M11-A1
Last Edit: 11 months 2 weeks ago by death2twinkys.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #6043

Barrel pushed in:
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Barrel out:
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #6050

Yea they look a fuzz different, but I can imagine that minimal of a difference being the problem. Though your slide looks significantly different from my own and from the one presented on Sig's website. If you compare the pictures I can see 2 clear deviations in the slides. Stand by I am going to look into some things.

Edit:
Is your's the threaded barrel model?
Not that it should matter I looked online for a bit and only a handful have that difference in the slide. Looks like its adding clearance for brass ejection but NONE of the 1911's on Sig's website show that design of slide. It's just a bit odd to me could be something, could be nothing, but your Scorpion looks suspect to me.
Sig Scorpion Carry 1911 .45 ACP
Sig P938 BRG Two Tone 9mm
Springfield Armory Milspec 1911 .45 ACP
FNH PS-90 Tri-Rail 5.7 x 28mm (Entertaining Offers)
Tula Arsenal SKS 7.62x39mm
Serbu Super Shorty (Rem 870) 12ga (For Sale)
Glock 19 gen 3 (For Sale)
Sig M11-A1
Last Edit: 11 months 2 weeks ago by death2twinkys.
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Sig 1911 scorpion carry - 1 newb's review 11 months 2 weeks ago #6053

Mine does not have the threaded barrel.
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